Ryan at 16,400' or so on the west buttress itself. we made a cache this day, most people stopped at 16200', we kept going. the "snow" was ice or else loose powder and was pretty sketchy. I don't think Ryan will ever forgive me for assuring him we didn't need any pickets for protection. we totally should have had a couple in addition to the 4-5 that were already fixed by other parties. 5/26/05.